Thursday, December 15, 2011

What do you think of Nick Clegg's ambitions to give up UK nuclear arms & hand more control to the EU...?

...because we know the french %26amp; german elites adore Britain.





If there was any political unrest regarding transfers of power to Brussels then they can always send EU forces to "calm" the situation (excuse the use of polite but deadly language - as emanates from Brussels these days) in this region of Europe [not sovereign nation, anymore]. Not to despair - Obama's America will always bail us out won't they?|||It's not just his ambitions... the Liberal Democrats have had these kinds of idiotic policies for a long while. Clearly they are perfectly happy to see Britain abolished, and defenceless when somewhere like North Korea finally develops nuclear missiles of their own.





The only realistic attitude to take with the EU is to recognise that we're better off in it than just a little nation on the outside, but to fight our corner at every turn when it comes up with yet another stupid idea to disadvantage Britain. You won't be surprised to hear I'm voting Conservative.|||I think they are not Nick Clegg's ambitions at all,but desperate lies by Labour and Conservatives who are terrified of their cosy government cartel being broken up by a party not beholden to either big business or the unions.





The Liberal Democrats are NOT,REPEAT,NOT giving up the UK nuclear deterrent,


They want Trident included in the next Strategic Defence Review that all parties agree is needed.


A like -for-like replacement for Trident is not necessarily the best option - as four senior British generals wrote in The Times yesterday.


Generals are not notably soft on defence of the nation.





As for handing more control to the EU,they propose to get involved and fight Britain's corner more effectively - as opposed to Cameron's pick-and-mix shilly-shallying on the fringes.


They also propose an "in or out" referendum.


And they are not unpopular in Europe for cosying up to far-right minority parties the way the Tories did,to the despair of Ken Clarke and other mainstream Conservatives.|||The UK, like France developed independent nuclear deterrents, in the late 1940s, with memories of two world wars still fresh and particularly the events of 1940. and the then terrifying nuclear armed Joseph Stalin.





While it is true, the most immediate nuclear threat, would be a terrorist detonating a so called"dirty bomb!. however remember the future threat from China, which for diplomatic reasons, front line politicians dare not discuss.





China remains like the Soviat union, during, the late forties, in all but, its economic policy.|||I would be suprised if he had said anything different.Thats what liberals do.pulling britain down and letting in even more immigrants than brown,if thats possible. If Dave would say what most people think and stop being a big girls blouse,clegg would stand no chance.|||Irrelevant, as he will never be Prime Minister.





Even if the Lib Dems get 35% of the vote they will still have fewer seats that either of the other two parties.


That's how our "democratic" electoral system works.|||It is a school boys dream and that is not a reality.|||Those are purely ambitions to get votes.


It won't happen, so I would ignore it.|||i think he fell out with the UKIP leader and is just doing it to wind them up.





oj .. i dunno tbh :)|||They are not giving up the UK's nuclear arms, they say that they will not exclude Trident from a review of the UK's defences. They are not talking about disarmament, they're talking about looking for cheaper alternatives. I don't think it's a very good idea relying on the US to make our nuclear weapons. I think it's time we had a British made nuclear deterrent. In the long run I believe this will be best for the country. The contracts are already signed till 2015 anyway, it's after that where the debate takes a hold. Investing now in a new deterrent can save us billions down the road.





When it comes to the EU, there's no point dilly-dallying on the edges. We should either be in or out. The problem is if we were to pull out now the rest of the EU would block our exports, they're very sly protectionists in the EU and this would severely hurt the UK. So for the next term we have to get everything we can out of the EU in terms of financial support etc.|||When Trident was introduced, nuclear weapons were limited to USA, USSR, PRC, UK and France. That was it. It was sold on the idea of deterrent, and it worked despite opposition from Labour and the Libdems. After all is said and done, there was no nuclear war, and they have not been used.





Another point was that we don't know what will happen in the future. Well, the future has arrived, India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons, that stable and peace loving regime in North Korea have them, and those western loving friends of freedom and democracy Iran have them.





Does anybody think that allowing North Korea and Iran the ability to use nuclear blackmail, or even to use these weapons is a good idea? No! That is why you need the deterrent.





Now think ahead 20-40 years. Who will have the weapons then? What stable states will we have to trust, Libya maybe, perhaps a new Mugabe with his love of all things white and european? That is why the nuclear deterrent is essential to the security of the UK.





The EU, notably France and Germany, were against protecting the Falklands. The Germans and French caused 'Black Wednesday' in the last tory administration when they refused to uphold the ERM (Exchange Rate Mechanism) stability pact. They left the pound to nose dive because they thought it was in their own national interest. See any parallels with what they are doing to Greece in the Euro Zone ( son of ERM). Who next will be let down by the Germans and French? The Spanish or the Italians or the Irish or the Portuguese?





Can you trust a europe controlled by nations who talk about solidarity but put their own narrow self interest first?





This is just froth for the masses as clegg puts into practice that which he learnt in Brussels as a junior aide and MEP.





A swift reality check by the electorate will see this appeasement of his european masters for what it is.





As for the US, it was late for the last 2 battles for global democracy, and was quite happy to see the UK sink if it was making a profit. It wasn't until it was attacked, and germany declared war upon it, that it came in on the side of the righteous. What makes anyone think they will stand for UK democracy next time, especially if they can make a profit selling arms and goods to both sides as they did 1939-1941.





Use your vote wisely on 6th May, but whatever you do vote!|||I THINK IT'S GREAT.

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